Writing

An interview with writer and journalist Laura Stanfill

Saturday, January 15th, 2011

We met in 2008 in a nascent novel critique group in Portland, Oregon, and gathered with other writers every few months over tall stacks of manuscript pages. We continued the friendship on writing retreats, and sometimes, just over some of her delicious mini banana breads to talk about storytelling and books. Laura Stanfill’s advice is unfailingly productive and positive, and it’s my pleasure to bring her voice to this blog.

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Laura Stanfill knitting is complex and beautiful. Not surprisingly, so is her writing.

She has completed two novels, BODY COPY and PROOF OF US, and is at work on a new one, LOST NOTES, a sweeping, multi-generational story of collecting, connecting, and obsessing. She also has an extensive journalism background, has earned various awards for her writing and design, and holds a bachelor’s degree in English from Vassar College.

1.    I knew you first as a literary writer with a lovely writing voice. In the almost-three years of our friendship, I have learned that you were trained as a journalist and worked as a newspaper editor on the Oregon coast. Many nonfiction writers struggle to meet the artistic demands of fiction writing: How do the habits of these two kinds of writing conflict with or complement each other, and how did you manage the transition?

The two pursuits have been intertwined in my life since right after college, when I launched my journalism career and started my very first novel. Newspaper work is extremely disciplined. If you’re sick, or exhausted, tough luck. Deadline’s always on the way. With that novel, I pushed myself to work for hours at a time, because professionally I was learning to survive grueling stints at the computer. The discipline transferred.

Of course with fiction, there’s the matter of making up worlds and setting the scene even more carefully than in a well-crafted feature article. Once the fictional world exists, it must change as the characters progress through the story. With journalism, a reporter must address the world as it exists, without overstepping professional boundaries, and an editor must evaluate reporters’ material with an eye toward accountability. Writing and editing nonfiction trained me to focus on the details. But fiction’s more freeing. It’s fine to elaborate, use inventive phrases and make all kinds of judgments. And if something doesn’t work, it can be fixed in the next draft. A reporter only gets one chance to nail the story.

2.    You are about to go on submission with your second novel, BODY COPY. Tell us a bit about it.

When I started BODY COPY six years ago, I wanted to write about community newspapers, intense deadlines and the sacrifices reporters and editors make to put out a weekly paper. There’s something romantic about people working crazy hours for little pay in order to write about, say, a woman who makes dolls in her kitchen. My main character, 23-year-old Megan Trumball, evolved from that concept, certainly, but the story has morphed into a portrait of grief and what it means to lose friends when you’re young. It feels like the world has ended. And that’s where BODY COPY starts.

It’s an unusual structure. The juicy back story about Megan’s roommates—full of secrets, fights and betrayals—unfolds parallel to her present-tense existence. As she settles into a new job on the Oregon coast, Megan uses her reporting skills to really look at what happened with her roommates, and to judge her own culpability in her friend’s tragic hit-and-run death. The reader watches her surface from grief in a realistic way, and once she engages fully in her new community, she sets about changing it.

3.    As you start to shop BODY COPY around, you have been doing a lot of research—both on agents and on books in your genre. You’ve done this successfully before: What are your techniques, then and now?

I haven’t yet immersed myself in the query pond, but I can speak to what worked last time. And that’s what you mentioned in your question: research. I tend to target agents who represent novels with some similarity to mine, such as a strong voice, a small-town landscape or a particular theme.

When I’m querying, I read lots of books and pull favorite tomes off the shelves in my living room. I subscribe to Publishers Marketplace. And I send my letters out one or two at a time. It’s a slow slog, and quite possibly an archaic method, but it’s one that has worked for me.

4.    From the perspective of a writer in search of an agent, has very much really changed with the publishing industry in the past five years?

I paid attention to the market in 2004-05, when my last novel went to agents and then editors, and I’m paying attention now. The years in between, I kept my mind on my manuscript.

That being said, I definitely think things are more difficult now. I’ve heard that from ultra-talented writer friends trying to find a foothold as well as from people in the industry. Everyone’s talking about the economy. Sometimes I wish I had finished BODY COPY six years ago, when agents and editors were more willing to take risks on no-name newcomers. Of course, publishing news and bookstores’ struggles are disheartening, and ebooks have changed the landscape.

5.    You’re one of the most effective writers I know, where it comes to taking an objective step back from a manuscript and evaluating its market potential. Is this a journalist’s skill? A personality trait? Where can I get one like it?

Thank you, Sarah! That’s a huge compliment, especially because I really respect all your insights about a work’s merits, shortcomings and prospects. As managing editor of a weekly newspaper, I had to balance content to ensure our subscribers would have stimulating reading experiences regardless of their particular interests. My list of options for each page was enormous, and each choice had its own consequence. Running two pages of letters meant stealing a page from business or schools. Bumping a lovely photo up to three columns on an inside page would result in a prettier page, but also a need to shrink the story.

There was never enough space for everything. Whatever I cut, or shortened, or held until next week would earn a complaint call. Perhaps that kind of editorial work trained me to think about how a reader might respond to specific artistic choices.

6.    Putting the business of writing aside—what are you working on now? Where is the new project allowing you to take your craft and development as a writer?

LOST NOTES is historical fiction, and that has taken me by surprise. This summer, as I was freewriting about an object, its history took over my imagination and overruled my initial plot outline. The piece in question is a small, high-pitched barrel organ, which was manufactured to train wealthy women’s canaries to sing popular or religious tunes. Now my novel begins in 1855, and it’s set in New York and several New England states.

I’ve never written a third-person novel. I’ve never written historical fiction. I’ve never chosen a male protagonist, let alone one who speaks French. I’ve never done major research for my fiction. And yet this book is extremely exciting. I’ve always approached a story from the character angle and then struggled with plot. This time, the plot keeps flowing, and I’m figuring out character as I go. Knowing this is a first draft gives me the leeway to experiment with language and see what shakes loose.

7.    You’re the journalist. What great question could I have asked, but didn’t?

How about this one: What are your thoughts on writing groups? I’m a huge fan of critique groups and trading useful feedback. There’s so much to learn from other writers, not just in terms of your own manuscript’s needs, but in the process of analyzing others’ work. I’m lucky to live in Portland, Oregon, where there’s a huge community of savvy writers.

In 2008, I joined a novel group, envisioned by writer Liz Prato as a way to address plot flaws and other big-picture issues, and I learn something new about the craft each time we get together. We read each other’s manuscripts and then comment on how everything works, what falls short and where the writer might go with revisions. It’s such an interesting process to focus on a big chunk of someone’s writing—or to submit your own work to such scrutiny. The several-hour discussions we have are truly amazing.

I joined my other critique group this past year, and we read a few pages aloud once a month. There are incredible writers in the room, and we’re all working on different projects, not just novels. I’ve been testing pieces of my new manuscript there, and the positive, helpful feedback has given me the courage to press forward.

Thank you, Laura! Be sure to visit her website, www.laurastanfill.com, or follow her writing blog at http://laurastanfill.wordpress.com. And you’ve really gotta see her photography.

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An interview with Michael Marsden

Tuesday, December 14th, 2010

Author Michael Marsden is carving a niche for himself as an indie-published writer of ghost stories and novels set in the American West. He’s also demonstrated a fascinating approach to learning the craft of creative writing: sheer quantity. After writing twelve books in ten years, he came to me with the best of them and asked me to help him take his craft to the next level.

Besides writing, he’s active in the Idaho writing community. He has served in the Idaho Writers’ League as vice president for the state organization and president of the Coeur d’Alene Chapter. Today he has three published novels and four more in process. In addition to his novels, he has recently had poems, essays, and fiction published in SpokeWrite Magazine.

1. Tell us about SAM D’BEAR, and about your writing.

In this novel, Sam d’Bear, a big Newfoundland dog, comes into David Montgomery’s life by accident and makes a home for himself. This is not the story I started to write fifteen years ago. At a writer’s conference in Boise a literary agent told me that if I want to write mysteries I must have a series, not just one novel. SAM D’BEAR started out as the third story in my mystery series. The first two were murder mysteries the third involved arson, but halfway through this novel, I introduced a dog to the story. The dog took over; and by the end of the story I didn’t care if the arsonist was stopped–I just wanted the dog to come out all right. When Gray Dog Press started up in Spokane in 2009, I submitted the story to them and it was published this year. It was clearly a case of having a novel ready when an opportunity presented itself.

I also have a series of North Idaho Ghost stories. Two have been self-published and two more are in revision. In a series of ghost stories the common thread is not the protagonist but the location. All four stories take place in small towns in North Idaho. The history of the towns always plays a role in the ghost stories.

2. You draw heavily on your own experiences in your work–from the landscape of the West to having a son in the service. Do you feel that your writing helps you reflect on these experiences and identities?

Writers are often told, “Write what you know.” Instead of applying that to the main plot I apply it to individual relationships and scenes within the story. I never write about a place that I have not visited–it is not enough to read about a city, a river or a mountain.

As for characters in the novel, I try to have someone in mind when I write. My wife, my sons and my daughter and now one of my dogs have all found their way into my novels. Experiences from my past greatly influence scenes in my novels most often these are well planned but sometimes I am surprised. After reading THE HOUSE IN HARRISON, my older brother told me about a weekend our family spent in an old house in Virginia. He and I explored the house and spied on the rest of the family from behind closet doors and under counters. I was four at the time and I didn’t remember doing this, but I could see the pattern in the story I had written.

3. What comes first: character, or plot, or something else?

The plot always come first, but it need not be formulated in great detail. The first version of a story is like an artist sketch in pencil; only after it is completed can I add color and details. It is in the second or third revision that the characters begin to fit into the location and interact with the plot. The main character tells me how he wants the story to be told.

SAM D’BEAR is the exception. The dog changed the focus of the story and what was to be a subplot became the main plot. At the time I was writing this novel, I had a Newfoundland dog named Keeper who would lie behind my chair or under my desk while I was writing. The agility trial in the novel reflects a trial she won in Missoula, and I felt I had to write the scene that way because Keeper was watching.

4. How did you come to writing and what has helped you the most along the way?

My mother was a writer of children’s stories. She had fifty-five published. She noticed that I always made up stories to tell my children and encouraged me to write than down and someday publish them. After I retired I set up a ten year plan to write a complete novel each year and then market the best of them. During these years I studied many books on writing, attended classes and conferences. Besides novels I wrote some rhymes and short stories which I entered in contests. I have belonged to five different writing organizations since I started writing. I am now active in only two. The greatest help has come from other writers I have met along the way.

5. As an author who has both self-published and been published traditionally, what is the top advantage and the top hassle of each?

The top advantage of self-publishing is control. I have a definite image of the story, and the book; seeing the two come together is a point of great joy and pride. The downside is the amount of work it takes, and unless you can manage to get a distributor to accept you book, your sales are limited. Gray Dog Press is a new local small press and I have a feeling of trust with them. It is much different from dealing with a large business in a different time zone.

Marketing has more opportunities when you have a publisher. The author has a strong role in marketing in either case but I don’t like being a bookkeeper or storing boxes of books in my guest room.

6. You seem to stay involved in a community of writers–both in a critique group and at the front of the room, giving talks about writing and publishing. More than ever, reaching out to other writers and readers seems to be a required part of the writing life. Is it required? What is the best way to start, and use your time wisely?

I much prefer to write and let someone else read what I say, but some people are verbal communicators. They want to hear what others have to say and to interact with the presenter. Since I have learned much from the presentations by other writers, I am obligated to try to share my experiences.

7. What advice would you give to someone else who is just learning the craft of writing novels?

Relax. Write and write until you come to the end of your novel and then write a second one. Only when I can see the entire story can I judge its worth. In my ten-year plan, I wrote twelve novels. The next year I took the most promising of the twelve and rewrote it from the beginning. It is important to share what you have written with others, but the author is only one who knows what he started out to write. Once you feel comfortable that you have said something, find an editor.

8. What question do you wish I would have asked, and what would you say to it?

That question would be, “What role do you think an editor plays in one becoming a writer?”

Nikki Arana, the most successful writer that I know personally, gives great credit to her editor for helping her become a professorial writer. I am by trial and error making some gains in my writing ability, but finding a good editor, critic, and teacher is key to stepping from the novice to professional level. The journey to be a good writer does not end with the first published book. I must strive to make my next novel better than my last and to do that I know that I need an editor.

Check out Michael’s latest novel, SAM D’BEAR, from Gray Dog Press.

Indie book advertising that works?

Wednesday, December 1st, 2010

Yesterday, Lit agent Kristin Nelson wrote a blog post on Pub Rants–”Advertising That Works?“–that suggests a new way to publicize books. Ever hear of Groupon.com? It helps independent local businesses offer deals to local customers, sometimes at huge discounts. She sums it up like this:

It introduces subscribers to local companies that they might not have discovered otherwise and more importantly, if a subscriber buys the deal for the day, that person is committed to visiting that company or using that service in the very near future.

I’d love to know if this concept could work  directly for authors. For instance, a few indie authors  could team up and publicize book specials along a couple of different dimensions–say, “Get three books by local Portland authors for $25″; or, “Get three new YA paranormal romance books for $25.” It would be a great way for readers to connect with new authors in their geographical area, or new books in a genre they love.

If you know me, you’ll know that any kind of local publishing venture intrigues me. The “Big Six” publishers are not the bad guys–they’ve brought us every book we’ve ever loved–but I also love the idea of self-publishing, Wild West stigma and all. The number of books per year continues to climb, and yet the number of good manuscripts that get rejected continues to climb, too. If you’ll allow me a cautious flight of fancy, what potential there must be for (some) literature right now, if (some) authors and (some) readers alike move away (sometimes) from the big-box-store mentality of traditional publishing and instead write locally, buy locally, and read locally (a little more often).

Maybe, just maybe, books and reading would regain footing in American culture. As Leonard Cohen wrote, “There is a crack in everything; that’s how the light gets in.” For once, let it not be the light of a computer or television screen.

Paying for indie publishing: It takes a village?

Saturday, September 4th, 2010

I’ve said here and elsewhere, many times before, that it takes a lot of money to self-publish a book. You can write one for only the cost of your time, but to involve professional editors, designers, printers, and possibly even marketers is to commit several thousands of dollars of your own money to do it right.

I make a living by editing books. If I am correcting your novel line-by-line, I cost about $2000.  I usually pay a competent designer between $1100 and $1300 to typeset that book and design its cover. Then I will charge you $150 to write your flap copy and press release. (I know it’s a faux pas to talk about money in public. Tsk, tsk. We writers… You can’t take us anywhere.) The result will be an attractive, well-edited book that you will be proud to share with your readers.

You can find better deals, of course. And they are still expensive. David Drazul, a fellow writer, spent a bit over $1000 in workshop fees, editing, design, and marketing costs. (See his guest blog post below, or here.) No matter how you slice it, indie publishing is not as democratic as we biblio-revolutionaries would like it to be.

Until now? Michael Keefe posted an article last week on music website MadeLoud.com, “Kickstarter: Where Modest Dreams Can Still Come True,” that highlights yet more instances of successful crowd-funding ventures. While the concept is not exactly fresh from the fires of a new economy (TIME published an article on it in 2008, and it has been around for at least ten years), it offers some hope for the cash-strapped genius in all of us. By posting your project on a site like Kickstarter.com, people anywhere can read about it and donate a minimum of $1 in support of it. Some of the site users’ current writing projects include zines and a translation of “Uruguayan poet Marosa di Giorgio’s 1965 masterpiece, The History of Violets.

The concept is appealing. With over 95 percent of its revenue going directly to the artist, writer, or filmmaker, a crowd-funding site can offset the cost of a worthy project. Besides that, it also involves the public in the arts and creates a sense of ownership–supporting an idea that I am personally attached to, namely that the arts are a dialogue, not a talent show.

Why do we read?

Saturday, May 1st, 2010

Literary agent Rachelle Gardner asked on her blog what purpose books serve.

A few months ago, the subject came up between E and I on a long drive to the Naval Hospital in Bremerton, where she was going for eye surgery. I asked what novels are for, because I wondered how difficult it would be if my eyes were out of commission–how soon I would miss reading, and what I would miss about it most. E is a good person to bring your big questions to, because she never convolutes the answers.

Books are a form of entertainment. To writers, books are more than that–or at least I wish they were, but when I try to make them too much they get, well… convoluted. The conversation left me wishing for a deeper definition of entertainment, but really, we have the penny romances that fed gossip-hungry 18th-century socialites to thank for the market that later gave us Uncle Tom’s Cabin, Mrs. Dalloway, Lolita, 1984, and all the rest. Your thoughts?

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